CreditCardBuilders.com
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- Fecha cuando ocurrió 10/04/2014
- Daños Reportados: $2,500.00
- Nombre de Usuario: ari page
- Correo Electrónico: [email protected]
- Ubicacion tampa, florida
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This true report dated October 2012 regarding CreditCardBuilders.com, hereafter (CCB.com)
and Ari Page the CEO.
(In November 2011) I paid CCB.com $2500 to help us obtain like they advertise on the internet and promote on their webinars ( see ad below) $50,000 to $250,000 in business credit cards ( for each of my two adult children.)
CCB.com has not produced like they advertise, not even close. Even though my children (ages 29 and 24) had excellent credit ( fico scores well over 700)
CCB.com was only able to obtain a total of about 6% of the business credit that they advertised,for my son and daughter.
And they each had good credit with FICA scores well over 700 .
In addition I was later warned by two companies that CCB.com does damage to the credit reports.( with so many inquires that the fica scores are lowered.) True, their fica scores are now lower.
** I would not recommend CCB.com to anyone.They have been a BIG disappointment, a LOSS of money and a WASTE of time. plus many other problems. (read below)**
BIG promises and very small delivery.
**** But the bigger problem is the CEO, ARI PAGE.****
He continues to insult, bully, threaten and call me a liar.
He has harassed and frightened my daughter by calling her at work several times even though he has been asked not to call..
He now leaves nasty messages on her voice mail. He has threatened to call her and my son every day to harass them.
He has threatened to destroy her and my sons credit reports if I report the truth to anyone.
He called her again yesterday after being asked not to annoy her anymore.
He again called last night and threatened her and my son harm, by ruining their credit if I report any negative (but truthful) information about him or CCB.com.
He has scared her, she believes him to be dangerous, because of his insults , threats, bullying, and persistent and constant harassing phone calls. Would you want someone to do this to you or your children?
He is the CEO of Credit Card Builders.com. He is trying to bully her and me so that I wont report him.
He has told me that if I ever report his or CCB.com poor performance to any agencies or anyone that his lawyers will sue me and my children even when I report the truth.
In addition he promises to hurt the credit reports of my children even more than CCB.com has already done when I report the truth about him.
He does not want me to report the truth about his company nor him or his bullying, harassment, insults, and threats.. He constantly emails me with more threats and insults. His latest email (today) among other insults and threats said I am mentally unstable because I dont submit to his threats and bullying. His mafia style intimidation may work on others , not me.
I do not like to hurt anyone's business but I feel it is my duty to report the truth about ARI PAGE and CCB.com.
This is the truth. In total we have received only 6% of his claim of $250,000 business credit. We have also received a lot of threats, insults, harassing phone calls, and bullying by
Ari Page the CEO.
FACTS ARE FACTS
Read the ad below. My daughter received only 4% of business credit,son 8%and Ari Page the CEO is threatening and insulting us? WE did not get what we paid for. Not even close,and he is angry at us? !!! CRAZY !!! My kids are afraid of this man and CCB.com.
Result of doing business with CCB.com and Ari Page. Loss of $2500 , a lot of frustration, threats, insults, harassment's.
Now he is punishing us for reporting him by taking away the very little credit he has obtained for my kids. So I lose $2500
NICE GUY isnt he. Will you do business with him? Its up to you. Im sure others are afraid to report him, dont be.
Yes, He is very scary but he and CCB.com are now on report for his behavior and performance.
below is his ad.
Ari Page
@AriPage
CEO of Credit Card Builders, follow me to learn how we create $250,000 of UnSecured Business Credit for each of our customers.
- Buscar Resolución: Estoy Buscando un Cambio en sus Prácticas Empresariales
- Cantidad de Reembolso: $ 0.00
- joseph SBID #e0b4e41336
- Publicado 10/04/2014
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- LianaCCB SBID #5fbb989826
- Publicado 10/12/2014
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Hello, my name is Liana Alexander. I am the Office Manager for the Tampa Credit Card Builders processing office. I recently held a meeting with the team of processors who worked on Mr. Derosa’s file: Amanda Paris, Lisha Weaver, Ward Leiter and Zac Ricci. The following is a summary of our working relationship with Mr. Derosa, from the time he signed up until now. The situation with Joe Derosa is unfortunate, and warrants extensive explication. Credit Card Builders has serviced over 700 separate individuals this year alone with only one major client complaint: Mr. Derosa. At nine months into our twelve month program Mr. Derosa has received $40,500 in usable credit lines. We advertise that under optimal conditions you can raise between $50,000 – $250,000 in useable credit in twelve months. Mr. Joe Derosa has made the details of this transaction public; on this precedent we will clarify the facts of the situation.
To date, Mr. Derosa has received over $40,000 and has not allowed us to complete his membership. Moreover, he did not ask for a refund during the sixty day refund period. If he were to continue, we could help him raise another $10,000 or $20,000 in usable business credit by the end of his twelve membership period. The key operator here is if he allowed us to. We are also willing to extend his membership to reach the desired amount of credit. But as you will come to find out, Mr. Derosa may have other motives for resorting to online defamation. What’s especially disturbing is the personal attacks that Mr. Derosa has made on one of our principals, Ari Page. I know Ari personally – I know his wife, two beautiful children (and his dog). Ari goes out of his way to make our office feel like a family. He has taken the entire team on various company expeditions, including our families. The man that Joe Derosa describes does not exist.
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- LianaCCB SBID #5fbb989826
- Publicado 10/12/2014
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Recently, I did a Google search for “Joe Derosa,” using his already public email address of: [email protected]. I found out that he is actually a competitor company, offering Hard Money loans. (Copy and Paste this link: http://www.thebartertown.net/classified-ads/real-estate-sale/real-estate-investment-loans-bad-credit-ok-crest-hill-il-60435/ ). He claims to be retired, yet he is still actively promoting his Hard Money lending program. With the information that Mr. Derosa is a competitor, one should discount the validity and the veracity of his complaint, since he’s in direct competition with Credit Card Builders.
When Mr. Derosa signed up for our program, he was told that he did not qualify for our program due to him having “bad” credit. He was informed right away, while he was still within his 60 day refund period. Because of this, Mr. Derosa decided to use his adult children as his credit partners. The adult children, Jay Derosa and Carley Derosa, in their early 20’s, were minimally qualified and we advised him of this as well. While Joe was still within his “60 Day Money Back” period he was advised of the different funding options, considering the limited credit profiles of his adult children. Mr. Derosa wanted to move forward to see how much credit he could get anyway. Our team was able to leverage their positives resulting in over $40,000 in usable credit lines.
Mr. Joe Derosa, Carley Derosa and Jay Derosa have all signed Power of Attorney forms with our company. These forms allow Credit Card Builders associates to contact said client at anytime regarding their file. When Ari Page attempted to reach out to Jay and Carley, Mr. Derosa threatened to “call the cops for harassment” as he has no desire to compromise and solely wants his own way. This seems to be his modus operandi.
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- LianaCCB SBID #5fbb989826
- Publicado 10/12/2014
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Joe Derosa claims that Ari Page “harassed” his children because Ari called Carley to discuss the situation and see if she could reach out to her father to organize a conference call in order to solve his issues amicably. To date, Credit Card Builders does not have Jay Derosa’s telephone number, and have never spoken with him verbally. We have had regular contact with Carley, who told us that “she did not trust her father” and that she wanted to be included within any communications related to her credit. Joe was furious when he found out that Ari had spoken with her. We had to remind him of the Power of Attorney she signed. Carley continued to claim that her father has “hurt her credit before” and that “she didn’t trust him as far as she could throw him.” Carley wanted us to continue rendering serves, but just keep her in the loop so Mr. Joe Derosa could not hurt her credit.
Ari called Carley (as she had requested) to discuss the unilateral decision that Mr. Derosa was making to close his CCB account. Ari also mentioned to Carley that Mr. Derosa was attempting to blackmail CCB into giving him $2,500 while also keeping the $40,500 in credit. The way that Mr. Derosa translates this phone call is: “Ari is threatening my daughter.” Mr. Derosa’s dispute with our services is more likely due to him being a direct competitor of ours and possibly exacerbated by his own family’s distrust of him.
If someone chooses to cancel their consulting services with our firm, we shut down the lines of credit we have set up. This is publicly disclosed on our Terms and Conditions page, which is agreed upon at the time that a client signs up. Mr. Derosa has known about this policy since he got started. In this case, Mr. Derosa had already spent all of the money on Carley’s credit line and if we shut down those accounts it would show up on Carley’s credit report as a “closed account with a balance”; lowering her credit scores by a few points.
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- LianaCCB SBID #5fbb989826
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Throughout the process of building credit for Mr. Derosa’s partners, he would increasingly become not only unpleasant but also uncooperative and confrontational. He would fail to follow our advice as well as resort to accusatory statements implying that we were not doing our job. On multiple occasions Mr. Derosa was caught in untruthful statements regarding his credit and the credit of his partners. This continuous duplicity made it hard for my team to do our job properly. Before posting his negative report, he sent us no less than 22 emails threatening and attempting to extort a refund from us. Mr. Derosa has been well aware the whole time that if he was dissatisfied, he could cancel within the first sixty (60) days as is clearly listed on our website. Instead, Mr. Derosa chose to accept ancillary services from our company that cost over $500 in order to maximize his gain. Then, starting on October 2nd, even though he had already raised $40,500 in usable credit, he began to continuously email us threats of what he planned on doing. This was the second time he has email barraged our firm and made these threats. The first time was in March of 2012, at which time he had raised $15,000 in usable credit.
Our consulting program is a process, and advertises to help clients build between $50,000 and $250,000 in business credit over the course of 12 months. We do not guarantee that you’ll reach any specific amount of credit. Legally, a credit broker is not allowed to. Instead, we can legally offer a Money Back Guarantee with a term of 60 days and work on a best efforts basis.
Mr. Derosa demanded we obtain $250,000 for each of his credit partners, which with their situation was not reasonable. He continued to pressure the consultants he worked with, and became increasingly difficult to work with over time. Even so, we continued to work with him, and his credit partners, showing great results considering their age and tenuous credit history.
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- LianaCCB SBID #5fbb989826
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The truth of the situation is that he paid for our service – and we provided that service. He had the opportunity to obtain his refund within the first sixty days, but chose not to exercise that right. When his demands became unreasonable, he proceeded to send us a string of frenzied emails threatening to slander our company on the internet, which he has obviously done.
Credit Card Builders has made best efforts to work with Mr. Derosa and even offered to extend his membership past the normal 12 months in order to reach a desired amount of credit. Instead, Mr. Derosa made the decision to cease service and spread false and libelous statements.
As the Office Manager, my goal is to make sure my team performs and pleases every client to their expectations, 110% of the time. The reality is that, from time to time, when dealing with a large number of clients there is always a percentage where there is a disagreement. In these instances, most discrepancies are solved through care and consideration of each other’s viewpoints. In the instance of working together with Mr. Derosa, unfortunately even our best efforts could not satisfy his demands.
Even after all of the taunting, attempted extortion and harassment, we remain committed to working with Mr. Derosa, he simply needs to contact us. -
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- chrisj_bennett SBID #039c6eae0d
- Publicado 10/19/2014
- Wow, what a response. I managed to make it through most of the rambling of the original poster, but I am really blown away by the response from Credit Card Builders. Most companys would just ignore something like this or pay one of those reputation management people to sweep it under the rug. As an entrepreneur and small business owner, I am very impressed with this level of service and dedication. Lord knows, I know you can’t make everyone happy (try working in customer service for 13 years)!! It gives a lot of credibility to the company that they care enough to try and fix things. I have been on a couple of webinars that Mr. LandLord has hosted for Credit Card Builders, and I am looking to sign up soon with my wife.
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